
February 24, 2023
Season 10 Episode 33 | 57m 43sVideo has Closed Captions
Republican lawmakers move to stop some of Ryan Walter’s education agenda from advancing.
Republican lawmakers move to stop some of Ryan Walter’s education agenda from advancing. The state unveils it’s “Imagine That” television advertising campaign. How does it compare to the tourism marketing done by neighboring states? Everyone is talking about artificial intelligence and ChatGPT- including our panel of experts in this week’s Indepth discussion. Plus, taxing EV’s on Oklahoma roads
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February 24, 2023
Season 10 Episode 33 | 57m 43sVideo has Closed Captions
Republican lawmakers move to stop some of Ryan Walter’s education agenda from advancing. The state unveils it’s “Imagine That” television advertising campaign. How does it compare to the tourism marketing done by neighboring states? Everyone is talking about artificial intelligence and ChatGPT- including our panel of experts in this week’s Indepth discussion. Plus, taxing EV’s on Oklahoma roads
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>> WHEN YOU CAN'T ARGUE AGAINST THE BILL ON THE MERITS, YOU MAKE STUFF UP.
>> YOU WILL DISCOVER THAT THE COST OF THIS ACTUALLY COSTS MORE THAN THE QUARTER POINT PERSONAL INCOME TAX.
>>> IF OKLAHOMA'S GAS TAX IS REPLACED, WHAT WOULD REPLACE THE REVENUE USED TO FIX OUR ROADS?
>> SO ULTIMATELY, THIS PAY-FOR-MILE SYSTEM COULD REPLACE REGISTRATION FOR EVs, SO THEY WOULD ONLY BE PAYING FOR THE MILES THEY DRIVE.
>>> A CONSERVATIVE COALITION CALLS FOR A MORATORIUM ON THE DEATH PENALTY IN OKLAHOMA.
>> CHANGES HAVE TO BE MADE, AND SO I'M SCREAMING FROM A LOUD MOUNTAINTOP ASKING FOR THEIR HELP.
>>> YOU NO LONGER HAVE TO "IMAGINE" WHAT THE STATE'S NEW TOURISM MARKETING CAMPAIGN WILL LOOK LIKE.
>> POST-PANDEMIC OKLAHOMA HAS NOW BECOME A DESTINATION INSTEAD OF A FLYOVER STATE.
THIS CAMPAIGN SHOWS THE BEAUTY OF OKIE AUTHENTICITY.
>>> AN IN-DEPTH DISCUSSION ON THE COMING IMPACT OF ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE ON OUR DAY-TO-DAY LIVES.
>> IT'S REALLY, REALLY GREAT AT BEING ABLE TO BRAINSTORM A LOT OF IDEAS REALLY RAPIDLY.
>>> PLUS, OKLAHOMANS HOLD A VIGIL TO OFFER HELP AND SUPPORT TO VICTIMS OF THE RECENT EARTHQUAKES IN TURKEY, NEXT ON THE "OKLAHOMA NEWS REPORT"!
HELLO, EVERYONE, AND WELCOME TO THE "OKLAHOMA NEWS REPORT.
” I'M RICH LENZ.
TWO EDUCATION BILLS ESTIMATED TO COST UP TO $800 MILLION HAVE PASSED IN THE OKLAHOMA HOUSE AND NOW MOVE ON TO THE SENATE FOR CONSIDERATION.
ONE WOULD PROVIDE TAX CREDITS FOR HOMESCHOOLING AND PRIVATE-SCHOOL TUITION, AND THE OTHER WILL PROVIDE ADDITIONTIONAL FUNDING FOR PUBLIC SCHOOLS.
CAPITOL CORRESPONDENT JASON DOYLE JOINS US WITH THE DETAILS.
JASON?
RICH, HOUSE SPEAKER CHARLES MCCALL INTRODUCED HIS EDUCATION PACKAGE JUST LAST WEEK.
WHILE THE TWO BILLS GAINED THE SUPERMAJORITY'S VOTE, HOUSE DEMOCRATS RAISED ISSUES OF ACCOUNTABILITY AND FAIRNESS.
ALL THE WHILE, SEVERAL OTHER EDUCATION-RELATED BILLS ARE MOVING THROUGH THE LEGISLATIVE PROCESS HOUSE BILL -- IT WAS WEDNESDAY WHEN HOUSE BILLS HIT THE HOUSE FLOOR SPARKING HOUSE OF QUESTIONS AND DEBATE OVER HOUSE SPEAKER CHARLES McCALL'S EDUCATION BILL.
HOUSE BILL 195 -- OFFERS A $5,000 TAX CREDIT FOR PARENTS WHO SEND THEIR CHILDREN TO PRIVATE SCHOOLS AND CREDIT FOR THOSE WHO HOMESCHOOL.
HOUSE BILL 2775 ADDS A $500 MILLION TO THE EDUCATION BUDGET FOR TEACHER PAY RAISES, $300 MILLION FOR SCHOOL DISTRICT NEEDS AND 50 MILLION FOR THE REDBUD SCHOOL FACILITIES GRANT PROGRAM.
HOUSE FLOOR LEADING JOHN ECCLES DEFENDED THE BILL.
>> THREE PEOPLE SO FAR HAVE CALLED THIS A VOUCHER BILL.
I UNDERSTAND WE LIVE IN A SOCIETY WHERE WE WILL REDEFINE WORDS, THAT'S NOT WHERE WE ARE.
WHEN YOU CAN'T ARGUE AGAINST THE BILL ON THE MERITS, YOU MAKE STUFF UP.
HE ARGUED THAT THE TAX CREDITS ARE MORE EXPENSIVE THAN ANOTHER TAX-RELIEF MEASURE IN PLACE.
>> THE COST OF THIS COST MORE THAN THE QUARTER-POINT PERSONAL INCOME TAX EVERY SINGLE TAXPAYER IN THE STATE OF OKLAHOMA RECEIVED THIS PAST YEAR.
THE HOUSE BILL PASSED.
HOUSE BILL 2775 ALSO PASSED BY A SUPERMAJORITY MARGIN OF 78-20.
>> WE ARE INCLUSIVE OF ALL EDUCATIONAL PARTICIPANTS WITH THESE BILLS AND IT'S A WIN.
>> Reporter: DESPITE THE WIN FOR HOUSE REPUBLICANS, TROUBLE IS BREWING WHEN THE SUBCOMMITTEE AND STATE SUPERINTENDENT OF PUBLIC EDUCATION RYAN WALTERS.
>> WE HAVE GOT TO FOCUS ON PUBLIC EDUCATION AND NOT HIS CRAZY DESTRUCTION OF PUBLIC EDUCATION.
>> THAT'S HOW McBRIDE IS DEFENDING HIS MOVE TO BLOCK WALTERS' TWO PROPOSED RULES FROM GOING INTO PLACE.
>> I DIDN'T REALLY WANT TO SAY THOSE WORDS.
I'VE GIVEN THE SUPERINTENDENT MULTIPLE OPPORTUNITIES TO BACK OFF HIS RHETORIC, BUT HE HAS NOT AND CONTINUES TO PUSH THE ENVELOPE.
>> Reporter: McBRIDE IS MOVING HOUSE BILL 2569 TO REQUIRE LEGISLATIVE AUTHORITY FOR THOSE RULES TO BE ENACTED.
A RULE DEALS WITH CONTENT WITHIN PUBLIC SCHOOL LIBRARIES.
THE OTHER RULE DEALS WITH PARENTAL RIGHTS WHEN KNOWING ABOUT THE CHILD'S HEALTH, MENTAL HEALTH, DEVELOPMENT AND IDENTITY.
IT ALSO REQUIRES ADVANCED NOTICE IF A STUDENT COULD RECEIVE SEXUAL EDUCATION MATERIALS AND GIVES THE PARENTS THE RIGHT TO REVIEW THE MATERIALS.
WALTERS ADDED A PUNISHMENT FOR DISCRIMINATES NONCOMPLIANT.
A VIOLATION COULD LEAD TO THE LOSS OF ACCREDITATION FOR A SCHOOL DISTRICT.
>> IF WE CAN BLOCK IT, WE'RE GOING TO BLOCK IT.
THERE NEEDS TO BE ROADBLOCKS TO CONTINUE -- FOR HIM TO CONTINUE ON THE WAY HE IS NOW.
BUT HE HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO COME BACK AND WALK SOME OF THIS BACK.
AND GET SOME OF US A LITTLE BIT MORE ON BOARD.
I DON'T DISLIKE MAN, I DISLIKE HIS WAYS.
>> Reporter: BY VIRTUE OF HIS POSITION, STATE SUPERINTENDENT RYAN WALTERS IS A MEMBER OF THE O.E.T.A.
BOARD.
HE DID ISSUE A STATEMENT WHEN HE PREPARED THE TWO NEW RULES LAST WEEK, SAYING -- INTERFERENCE FOR TEACHERS OR ADMINISTRATORS.
QUESTIONS OF MEX OR RELIGION WILL BE DECIDED BY OKLAHOMA PARENTS.
McBRIDE SAYS HE'S NOT AGAINST MAKING SURE INAPPROPRIATE MATERIALS ARE KEPT OUT OF PUBLIC SCHOOL LIBRARIES OR MAKING SURE PARENTS HAVE A SAY IN EDUCATION, HE IS AGAINST SCHOOLS LOSING ACCREDITDATION WHEN IT CAN BE HANDLED DIFFERENTLY.
>> KINDERGARTEN THROUGH 5, THAT DISCUSSION IS OFF THE TABLE.
FROM 6 FORWARD, IT NEEDS TO BE AGE APPROPRIATE, AND I THINK THERE'S CERTAINLY THINGS THAT YOU MIGHT SAY TO A 12-YEAR-OLD THAT MIGHT NOT BE.
OR CONVERSELY, YOU MIGHT SAY THINGS TO A 17-YEAR-OLD THAT MAY NOT BE APPROPRIATE FOR A 12-YEAR-OLD.
HOUSE BILL 2546 WON THE COMMITTEE'S APPROVAL.
>> WITH A VOTE OF 10 AYES AND 2 NAYS, I DECLARE YOUR BILL TO HAVE PASSED.
>> BACK ON THOSE RULES PROPOSED BY SUPERINTENDENT WALTERS.
THE STATE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION IS TAKING PUBLIC COMMENTS ON THE AGENCY'S WEBSITE THROUGH MARCH 17.
THE BOARD OF EDUCATION COULD TAKE UP ADOPTING THEM AFTER THAT DEADLINE.
RICH?
JASON, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>>> THERE WAS PLENTY OF OTHER NEWS BEING MADE DURING THE THIRD WEEK OF THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION.
WITH MORE ON THAT, I SAT DOWN WITH “QUORUM CALL “PUBLISHER, SHAWN ASHLEY, AT THE STATE CAPITOL.
SHAWN, WE TALKED ABOUT THE HOUSE EDUCATION BILLS.
LET'S TALK ABOUT THE SENATE.
THE COMMITTEE HAS ADVANCED TWO BILLS THAT COULD DRAMATICALLY ALTER HOW PUBLIC SCHOOL IS FUNDED.
GIVE US THE DETAILS ON THAT.
YES.
ONE OF THOSE BILLS IS SENATE BILL 527 BY SENATE EDUCATION CHAIR ADAM PUGH.
THIS BILL THIS BILL MODIFIES THE STATE FORMULA.
NOW, EVERY YEAR WE TALK ABOUT THE LARGE AMOUNTS OF MONEY THAT ARE APPROPRIATED TO THE STATE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION, AND A LARGE PORTION OF THAT MONEY FLOWS THROUGH THE STATE, A FORMULA TO BE ALLOCATED TO LOCAL SCHOOL DISTRICTS.
THIS WOULD CHANGE SOME OF THE CALCULATIONS IN THAT.
AND THE SENATOR SAID WHAT IT ATTEMPTS TO DO IS FOCUS ON THOSE AREAS THAT STATE POLICYMAKERS ARE PARTICULARLY INTERESTED IN EARLY CHILDHOOD EDUCATION, PARTICULARLY DELIBERATIVE IN MAKING SURE STUDENTS ARE READING AT GRADE LEVEL BY THE TIME THEY FINISH THE THIRD GRADE.
ANOTHER BILL PRESENTED BY SENATOR, THIS BILL, THE REWARDING STUDENT OUTCOMES ACT, MODIFIES THE STATE'S A TO F GRADE SCALE AND REALLY FOCUSES ON IMPROVEMENTS IN THOSE GRADES OVER A PERIOD OF TIME AND OFFERS SCHOOL DISTRICTS INCENTIVES IN ORDER TO MAKE THOSE IMPROVEMENTS.
SENATOR PUGH POINTED OUT THAT RIGHT NOW THE GRADE SCALE JUST PROVIDES A SNAPSHOT OF TIME, BUT THIS WOULD ENCOURAGE LOCAL DISTRICTS TO WORK TO IMPROVE THOSE SCHOOLS, AND WHEN THEY DO, THEY WOULD BE REWARDED FOR DOING SO.
>> CHEROKEE PRINCIPAL CHIEF CHUCK HOSKIN JR., WHO'S ACTUALLY UP FOR REELECTION THIS YEAR, ADDRESSED BOTH THE HOUSE AND SENATE THIS WEEK.
WHAT WAS HIS MESSAGE TO LAWMAKERS?
>> WELL, THE CHIEF TALKED ABOUT SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT THE STATE AND HIS TRIBE HAVE WORKED ON TOGETHER AND IMPROVEMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE THROUGHOUT THE CHEROKEE NATION, OFTEN WORKING HAND IN HAND WITH THE STATE.
HE REMINDED THEM, TOO, THAT THEY SHOULD LOOK BACK AT THE STATE'S HISTORY AS WELL AS THE CHEROKEE NATION AND SEE THE POSITIVES AS WELL AS THE NEGATIVES AND WORK TOGETHER TO FOCUS ON POSITIVE EFFORTS IN THE YEARS TO COME.
>> NOW, THERE'S SOME PROPOSED LEGISLATION THAT HAS PASSED OUT OF COMMITTEE THAT WILL REQUIRE STATE AND LOCAL OFFICIALS TO DISCLOSE IF THEY HAVE AN INTEREST IN A MEDICAL MARIJUANA BUSINESS.
IS THAT MORE COMMON THAN WE THOUGHT?
APPARENTLY, IT IS.
HOUSE BILL 1616 BY REPRESENTATIVE RANDY WORTHEN WOULD REQUIRE THAT DISCLOSURE IN ORDER TO AVOID CONFLICTS OF INTEREST.
THERE'S AT LEAST ONE INCIDENT INVOLVING THE TULSA CITY COUNCIL IN WHICH THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT LOCAL REGULATIONS WHERE ONE OF THE COUNSELORS AT THAT TIME WAS THE OWNER IN MEDICAL MARIJUANA DISPENSARY.
NOW, WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW MANY OTHER INSTANCES THERE MAY BE ACROSS THE STATE OF OKLAHOMA, BUT REPRESENTATIVE WORTHEN'S BILL WOULD REQUIRE THAT THOSE DISCLOSURES BE MADE IN ORDER TO AVOID THOSE CONFLICTS OF INTEREST."
>> SHAWN, IS THERE ANY CHANCE THAT RECENT COLLEGE GRADUATES WILL RECEIVE AT LEAST SOME TEMPORARY TAX RELIEF ONCE THEY GET OUT OF SCHOOL?
>> THAT IS CERTAINLY BEING DISCUSSED.
HOUSE BILL 138 BY REPRESENTATIVE KEVIN MCDUGLE WOULD EXEMPT FROM INCOME UP TO $75,000 PER YEAR FOR TWO YEARS INCOME OF NEW GRADUATES FROM OKLAHOMA INSTITUTIONS OF HIGHER EDUCATION AND FROM THE CAREER TECH SCHOOLS AS A MEANS OF ENCOURAGING THOSE INDIVIDUALS TO REMAIN IN OKLAHOMA AND TAKE JOBS HERE.
ONE OF THE BIG FOCUSES OF THIS LEGISLATIVE SESSION IS WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT.
AND WE'RE SEEING A LOT OF PROPOSALS IN ORDER TO HELP RECRUIT INDIVIDUALS TO REMAIN IN THE STATE AND RETAIN THEM OVER TIME.
REPRESENTATIVE MCDUGLE TALKED ABOUT THIS IDEA DURING THE SUMMER AND FALL INTERIM STUDY, WHICH HE SAID ONE OF THE BEST WAYS TO DO IT MAY SIMPLY BE TO ELIMINATE THE STATE INCOME TAX FOR A PERIOD OF TIME, AND THAT'S WHAT THIS BILL DOES.
>> SO SHAWN, THIS WEEK THERE WAS A LOT OF FOCUS ON EDUCATION.
WHAT ELSE IS ON YOUR RADAR RIGHT NOW?
>> WELL, THURSDAY, MARCH 2ND IS THE DEADLINE FOR BILLS TO BE HEARD IN THE COMMITTEE OF THEIR CHAMBER OF ORIGIN.
AND THIS IS A VERY BUSY TIME WHERE WE'LL OFTEN SEE NEW PROPOSALS AND NEW LANGUAGE.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE'LL BE WATCHING FOR.
SHAWN ASHLEY, PUBLISHER OF “QUORUM CALL, ” THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
>> YOU'RE VERY WELCOME.
>> A GROUP OF CONSERVATIVE LAWMAKERS AND CLERGY ARE CALLING FOR A RENEWED MORATORIUM ON OKLAHOMA'S DEATH PENALTY.
STATE REPRESENTATIVE KEVIN MCDUGLE SAYS HE DOESN'T WANT TO ABOLISH THE DEATH PENALTY, BUT DOES WANT TO PAUSE LETHAL INJECTIONS UNTIL THE LEGAL PROCESS IS FIXED TO ENSURE AN INNOCENT PERSON IS NOT PUT TO DEATH.
THE BROKEN ARROW REPUBLICAN HAS BEEN A STAUNCH ADVOCATE FOR CONVICTED MURDERER RICHARD GLOSSIP, WHO IS SCHEDULED TO BE EXECUTED ON MAY 18.
>> OKLAHOMA'S HAD OVER 120 EXECUTION SINCE 1976.
OUT OF THOSE, WE'VE HAD 10 THAT ARE EXONERATED AFTER THEY WENT THROUGH THE FULL PROCESS BECAUSE OF DNA.
AND ME PERSONALLY, I BELIEVE WE HAVE ONE MORE PERSON THAT'S STILL ON DEATH ROW, AT LEAST ONE THAT IS INNOCENT, AND HE'S NOW GOT HIS NINTH DEATH ROW DATE.
YOU CANNOT LOOK AT OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM TODAY AND SAY THAT IT'S A PERFECT SYSTEM, WE DON'T NEED TO MAKE ANY MORE CHANGES.
CHANGES HAVE TO BE MADE, AND SO I'M SCREAMING FROM A LOUD MOUNTAINTOP ASKING FOR THEIR HELP.
THE GOOD THING IS I THINK WE'VE GOT PEOPLE IN PLACE NOW THAT ARE WILLING TO LOOK AT THE RICHARD GLOSS CASE.
>> THERE ARE GOOD REASONS WHY SO MANY CONSERVATIVES, INCLUDING THOSE HERE IN THE SOONER STATE, ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE DEATH PENALTY.
IT IS EXTREME USE OF STATE POWER DEEPLY AT ODDS WITH OUR LIMITED GOVERNMENT BELIEFS, AND IT DOESN'T ALIGN WITH CONSISTENT LIFE ETHICS.
HISTORY HAS SHOWN US THAT THERE IS A VERY REAL RISK THAT OKLAHOMA COULD EXECUTE AN INNOCENT PERSON.
AT LEAST 10 MEN HAVE BEEN WRONGFULLY CONVICTED AND SENTENCED TO DIE HERE IN OKLAHOMA.
>> ATTORNEY GENERAL GENTNER DRUMMOND HAS APPOINTED AN INDEPENDENT COUNSEL TO FULLY REVIEW GLOSSIP'S CLAIMS OF INNOCENCE.
>>> A STATE TAX ON GASOLINE HELPS FUND MAINTAINENCE ON OKLAHOMA ROADS AND BRIDGES.
BUT WHAT IF YOU DRIVE AN ELECTRIC VEHICLE AND DON'T PAY THAT TAX BUT STILL UTILIZE THE ROADS?
IS THAT FAIR?
SOME PEOPLE DON'T THINK SO AND ARE WORKING TO CHANGE THE SYSTEM.
STEVE SHAW JOINS NOW WITH MORE ON THAT.
STEVE?
>> RICH, THERE'S A LOT OF PASSION THAT GOES IN A LOT OF WAYS ON THIS.
FOR THAT REASON, ODOT IS STARTING A PILOT PROGRAM THAT THEY SAY COULD REPLACE GAS TAXES PEOPLE PAY AT THE PUMP WITH USER FEE'S BASED ON THE NUMBER OF MILES THEY DRIVE.
TONY SMITH IS ASSOCIATE DIRECTOR OF FINANCE AND BUSINESS AT OKLAHOMA STATE'S CAMPUS.
HE BOUGHT A EV NISSAN LEAF.
AND HE'S NEVER LOOKED BACK.
IT HAS BEEN AN AMAZING EXPERIENCE FOR ME.
YES, IT'S BEEN ONE THAT, YOU KNOW, I SAVE MONEY.
SO, IT'S LIKE THREEFOLD, REALLY.
I FEEL GOOD, SAVE MONEY AND MAN, FUN TO DRIVE.
THERE ARE LIMITATIONS HOW FAR SMITH CAN DRIVE EACH DAY, BUT HE FEELS UP IN HIS GARAGE AT HOME EACH NIGHT, AND IT COST HIM A WHOPPING $12 A MONTH, YEAH, A MONTH.
AND THE MONEY THAT I'VE SAVED NOT PAYING FOR GASOLINE FOR SIX AND A HALF YEARS, I'VE PAID THE CAR, WHICH COST ME A LITTLE OVER $8,000.
IT'S NOT JUST THE FUEL SAVINGS I; IT'S ALSO MAINTENANCE.
THERE'S VIRTUALLY NO MAINTENANCE WITH AN ELECTRIC VEHICLE.
>> Reporter: ACCORDING TO THE OKLAHOMA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, THERE ARE AROUND 6,000 ELECTRIC PASSENGER VEHICLES RIGHT NOW IN THE STATE, AND THAT NUMBER IS CLIMBING.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT VEHICLES THAT DON'T USE GAS AND, BECAUSE OF THAT, THE PEOPLE WHO DRIVE ELECTRIC, DON'T PAY THAT 19 CENT A GALLON GAS TAX THAT EVERYBODY ELSE PAYS TO BUILD AND MAINTAIN OKLAHOMA ROADWAYS.
AND THAT'S WHY ODOT JUST ROLLED OUT FAIR MILES OKLAHOMA, THE STATE'S LOOKING FOR 500 VOLUNTEERS TO REGISTER ON THE FAIR MILES WEBSITE TO GET STARTED.
>> WE'RE NOT GOING TO TRANSACT ANY REAL MONEY.
NOBODY WILL GET A BILL.
WE DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO PAY, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO DEMONSTRATE WHAT YOU MIGHT SEE AS A TAX BILL ON YOUR PERSONAL DRIVING HABITS.
>> Reporter: ODOT DEPUTY DIRECTOR DON SULLIVAN SAYS OKLAHOMA MOTORISTS, ON AVERAGE, PAY AROUND $120 A YEAR IN TRANSPORTATION TAXES.
>> IT MAY TAKE A FEW YEARS, MAYBE 10 YEARS, BUT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE MORE ELECTRIC AND HYBRIDS AND PLUGINS THAN THE TRADITIONAL GAS VEHICLES.
>> Reporter: TONY SMITH SAYS LAST YEAR, FOR THE FIRST TIME, THE STATE CHARGED HIM $110 BECAUSE HE WAS DRIVING AN EV.
>> I HAVE NO ISSUE WITH PAYING OUR FAIR SHARE FOR ANYWHERE THAT WE HAVE OVER THE ROAD.
>> SO THE $110 REGISTRATION FEE WAS RECENTLY PASSED BY THE LEGISLATURE, AND THAT IS TO TRY TO START TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM.
>> Reporter: SULLIVAN SAYS STATE LAWMAKERS DIRECTED ODOT TO CONDUCT A FAIR MILES STUDY, WHICH WILL LAST SIX MONTHS, AND WILL BE FINANCED, IN PART, BY A FEDERAL GRANT.
SHE SAYS ODOT WILL REPORT THEIR FINDINGS TO THE STATE LEGISLATURE IN DECEMBER.
>> IS IT TRUE ODOT ESTIMATES BY 2030, FUNDING FROM STATE FUEL TAXES FOR ROAD IMPROVEMENTS COULD DECREASE BY HALF?
IS THAT TRUE?
>> THAT IS TRUE.
>> Reporter: JIM NEWPORT IS PRESIDENT AND CEO OF THE OKLAHOMA TRUCKING ASSOCIATION.
>> ACCORDING TO THE AMERICAN TRANSPORTATION RESEARCH INSTITUTE, IN OKLAHOMA, WE PAY 45% OF ALL OF THE ROAD USE TAXES THAT ARE COLLECTED.
YET, WE ONLY REPRESENT ABOUT 14% OF THE LANE MILES ACTUALLY USED.
>> Reporter: THE ODOT STUDY DOESN'T TRACK OVER THE ROAD TRUCKERS.
THAT'S DONE BY THE FEDS.
BUT NEWPORT SAYS THAT DOESN'T MEAN THEY'RE NOT FOLLOWING IT.
THERE'S ALL KINDS OF POLITICS BEHIND IT, GEOPHYSICAL ISSUES, SUCH AS, WELL, I'M USING CLEAN ELECTRICITY.
ARE YOU?
DO YOU KNOW FOR SURE THE GENERATING PLANT OF THAT ELECTRICITY DOESN'T USE COAL?
THOSE ARE FOSSIL FUELS.
UNLESS IT'S STRICTLY WIND OR HYDRO YOU KNOW, AGAIN, NOT TO GET OFF TOO FAR, BUT THE POINT IS, WHAT'S BEHIND THE PUSH FOR ELECTRIC VEHICLES IN THE FIRST PLACE?
I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE SHOULD BE MOST CONCERNED ABOUT IS HOW ARE YOU GOING TO MEASURE THE ELECTRIC VEHICLE USAGE AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, HOW ARE YOU GOING TO COLLECT THAT TAX?
A LOT OF THE WESTERN STATES, AND SOME THAT HAVE GONE THROUGH THIS, HAVE ADOPTED WHAT THEY CALL A VMT, VEHICLE MILEAGE TAX, OR SOMETHING SIMILAR BY A DIFFERENT NAME.
BUT IT'S BASICALLY THE SAME.
MODELS HAVE SHOWN AND I'LL REFER TO THE AMERICAN TRANSPORTATION RESEARCH INSTITUTE THAT A VEHICLE MILEAGE TAX COST AN EXORBITANT AMOUNT FOR THE DATA COLLECTION OF ALL ELECTRIC VEHICLES AND THAT THAT PROCESSING OF ALL OF THAT DATA IS REALLY COST PROHIBITIVE COMPARED TO THE TAX THAT WE COLLECT AND USE NOW WITH TRADITIONAL FUELS.
>> Reporter: DEPUTY DIRECTOR SULLIVAN SAYS NEWER PASSENGER VEHICLES AND NEWER TECHNOLOGY WILL MAKE IT EASIER AND MORE COST EFFICIENT TO TRACK.
>> TO GO TO A PAY PER MILE SYSTEM, IT IS MORE INTENSIVE, AND WE ANTICIPATE THAT AS THESE SYSTEMS GET ROLLED OUT, THAT THERE WILL BE EFFICIENCIES GAINED AND THE ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS WILL GO DOWN.
>> THE IDEA OF LETTING PEOPLE IN OKLAHOMA PARTICIPATE IN THIS PILOT MEANS THEY CAN BE PART OF FIGURING OUT HOW TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM THAT WE'RE ALL BE FACING IN THE FUTURE.
>> Reporter: LAST YEAR, U.S. TRANSPORTATION DIRECTOR PETE BUTTIGIEG ANNOUNCED THAT BY NEXT YEAR, ALL NEW PASSENGER VEHICLES SOLD IN THE U.S. MUST AVERAGE AT LEAST 40 MILES PER GALLON OF GAS.
>> WHEN YOU RANK THE MOST IMPORTANT ADVANCES IN TECHNOLOGY IN THE LAST 30 YEARS, THE PERSONAL COMPUTER AND THE iPHONE HAVE TO TOP THE LIST.
NOW ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE IS ON THE THRESHOLD OF POSSIBLY HAVING AN EQUAL, IF NOT GREATER IMPACT ON SOCIETY -- FOR BOTH GOOD AND BAD.
AI MIGHT LEAD TO REMARKABLE MEDICAL BREAKTHROUGHS AND/OR MAKE YOUR JOB OBSOLETE.
SOUNDS LIKE A GREAT TOPIC FOR CONVERSATION.
AND WE'LL DIG INTO AI AND ChatGPT IN OUR IN-DEPTH DISCUSSION LATER IN THIS NEWSCAST.
HERE'S A PREVIEW.
>> OPEN AI MAKING ChatGPT HAS A CORPUS THAT'S ABOUT 4 OR 5 TB OF DATA, AND YOU KNOW, WIKIPEDIA ARTICLES AND REDDIT POSTS.
AND YOU KNOW JUST EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENS ON THE INTERNET, AND A LOT OF THAT IS NOT NECESSARILY REPRESENTATIVE OF HUMANITY'S BEST SELF.
>> ONE OF THE PROBLEMS IS THOSE GUARDRAILS CAN INTRODUCE A SET OF BIAS.
DEPENDING ON WHAT THEY FEEL IS APPROPRIATE OR NOT APPROPRIATE.
I KNOW OPEN AI, THE COMPANY BEHIND ChatGPT AND SOME OTHER LANGUAGE MODELS, HAS SAID THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE BOARDS THAT ARE GOING TO LOOK AT AND TRY TO WORKS ON THAT BIAS OUT, BUT WE'RE --WE'RE HERE IN OKLAHOMA.
TRY -- TRY TALKING TO ChatGPT ABOUT FOSSIL FUELS, AND YOU'LL GET A -- A VERY NON-OKLAHOMA KIND OF SPIN ON -- ON FOSSIL FUELS BECAUSE OF HOW ChatGPT AND THEIR ENGINEERS HAVE PUT SOME OF THOSE GUARDRAILS AROUND.
>> THE REST OF THAT IMPORTANT DISCUSSION COMING UP LATER IN THIS NEWSCAST.
AFTER A MASSIVE EARTHQUAKE KILLED MORE THAN 47,000 PEOPLE IN TURKEY TWO WEEKS AGO, THE REGION WAS HIT WITH ANOTHER QUAKE THIS WEEK, A 6.3 TREMBLER THAT CLAIMED AT LEAST SIX MORE LIVES AND INJURED HUNDREDS MORE.
SUPPORT FROM AROUND THE WORLD IS ARRIVING TO HELP AID THE STRIKEN REGION, INCLUDING FROM HERE IN OKLAHOMA.
ON TUESDAY NIGHT, PEOPLE FROM ALL WALKS OF FAITH GATHERED IN A DOWNTOWN OKLAHOMA CITY CHURCH TO PROVIDE PRAYER AND COMFORT IN THE WAKE OF THE INTERNATIONAL TRAGEDY.
THE GROUP WHO ORGANIZED THE EFFORT WILL HOLD A FUNDRAISER ON SATURDAY, WITH THE MONEY RAISED USED TO HELP VICTIMS OF THE EARTHQUAKE.
>> WE'LL BE SELLING FOOD, DRINKS, HANDMADE ART AND CRAFT ITEMS TO RAISE MONEY TO SEND TURKEY.
BECAUSE AT THIS POINT, A LOT OF THEM, THEY NEED SHELTER, THEY NEED FOOD, THEY NEED EVERYTHING BECAUSE THEY'RE HOMELESS.
IMAGINE, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THEM LOSING THEIR LOVED ONES, LOSING THEIR HOMES, CARS, BUSINESSES.
SO, IT'S OUR HUMANITY, AND WE HAVE TO SUPPORT ONE ANOTHER.
WE MAY COME FROM DIFFERENT FAITHS, BACKGROUNDS, ETHNICITIES, COLORS, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO SUPPORT ONE ANOTHER DURING THESE TRAGEDIES AND DURING THESE DIFFICULT TIMES.
>> YOU KNOW, THERE IS OKLAHOMA STANDARDS THAT WE HAVE BEEN SHARING WITH OTHER, LIKE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE -- PEOPLE OF OTHER STATES, OTHER COMMUNITIES AND COUNTRIES.
I THINK IT'S OUR TIME TO SHOW THE OKLAHOMA STANDARD, AND WE HAVE TO RESPOND TO THESE, YOU KNOW, URGENT NEEDS OF TURKEY AND SYRIA, EARTHQUAKE VICTIMS AS IF THE EARTHQUAKE HAPPENED IN OKLAHOMA.
IN ADDITION TO THE MONUMENTAL DEATH TOLL, MILLIONS OF SURVIVORS IN TURKEY AND SYRIA ARE NOW HOMELESS.
>> THE OKLAHOMA TOURISM AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT IS ROLLING OUT A MILLION-DOLLAR AD CAMPAIGN BUILT AROUND THE "IMAGINE THAT" SLOGAN UNVEILED TWO YEARS AGO.
TELEVISION AND ONLINE COMMERCIALS WILL TARGET OUT-OF-TOWNERS, AS WELL AS OKLAHOMANS SEEKING A FUN STAYCATION.
TAELYR JACKSON JOINS US WITH MORE ON THE CAMPAIGN.
TAELYR?
>> RICH, THE SIX NEW TV COMMERCIALS WERE OF COURSE FILMED RIGHT HERE IN THE STATE, BUT THEY ALSO FEATURE OKLAHOMA TALENT.
THE DEPARTMENT OF TOURISM USED BOTH OKLAHOMA ACTORS AND ARTISTS TO BRING THEIR VISION TO LIFE.
♪ >> SINGING HIS RENDITION OF IRVING BERLIN'S “BLUE SKYS ” ON THIS COMMERCIAL IS FIFTH-GENERATION OKLAHOMAN KYLE DILLINGHAM.
HE SAYS THIS NEW CAMPAIGN WILL TRULY ALLOW VIEWERS TO "IMAGINE" WHAT OKLAHOMA HAS TO OFFER.
>> WHAT I LOVE SO MUCH ABOUT THIS CAMPAIGN IS THAT IT JUST ELEVATES THIS IDEA THAT I'VE ALWAYS EXPERIENCED MY WHOLE LIFE GROWING UP IN RED CARPET COUNTRY, IN ENID, OKLAHOMA.
EVEN SOME OF THESE LITTLE TOWNS THAT MAYBE YOU HAVEN'T HEARD OF THERE'S LOTS OF GREAT THINGS TO DISCOVER EVEN JUST THE SIMPLICITY OF LIFE.
WHEN YOU TRAVEL OKLAHOMA, YOU STRENGTHEN OKLAHOMA.
>> AT MONDAY'S AD CAMPAIGN LAUNCH, LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR MATT PINNELL PROMOTED TOURISM AS A WAY TO CONTINUE TO GROW OKLAHOMA'S ECONOMY BECAUSE TOURISM IS THE "FRONT DOOR" TO OUR STATE.
>> ALL THESE COMPANIES THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO, YOU KNOW, RECRUIT TO THE STATE OF OKLAHOMA, IT STARTS WITH A VISIT.
YOU KNOW, IT STARTS WITH THEM COMING TO OKLAHOMA TO SEE IF IT'S A -- A KIND OF STATE THAT THEY WOULD WANNA LIVE IN.
AND THE QUALITY OF LIFE AND THE TOURIST ATTRACTIONS THAT WE'VE CREATED AROUND THE STATE OF OKLAHOMA OVER THE LAST 20 YEARS GIVES US THE OPPORTUNITY NOW TO COMPETE FOR THOSE BUSINESSES.
POST-PANDEMIC OKLAHOMA HAS BECOME A DESTINATION INSTEAD OF A FLYOVER STATE.
>> TOURISM HAS IMMENSELY IMPACTED THE STATES ECONOMY.
2021 TOURISM BROUGHT IN $10.1 BILLION.
THAT HAS INCREASED STATE AND LOCAL TAX REVENUE BY 3.3% SINCE 2019.
>> WE WILL BE INVESTING SOME MONEY INSIDE THE STATE.
WITH THE LIMITED RESOURCES THAT WE DO HAVE, WE WANT TO SPEND MOST OF KNOWS IN STRATEGIC LOCATIONS, TARGETED LOCATIONS IN A REGIONAL FOOTPRINT.
>> THOSE TARGETED LOCATIONS INCLUDE OUR NEIGHBORSTEXAS, MISSOURI, AND ARKANSAS, AND THOSE VISITORS ARE BRINGING >> EVERY COMMUNITY BASES THEIR BUDGET OFF QUITE A BIT OFF OF SALES TAX REVENUE, PAYING FOR POLICE AND FIRE IN OKLAHOMA CITY, TULSA, OR ANYWHERE IN BETWEEN.
SO, IT'S -- IT'S ANOTHER VERY KEY POINT.
OKLAHOMA RELIES UPON SALES TAX MORE THAN ANY OTHER STATE.
AND IF WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO RELY UPON SALES TAX AT A LEVEL THAT WE DO, WE BETTER CARE ABOUT THE TOURISM INDUSTRY.
AND INVESTS IN A TOURISM INDUSTRY THAT'S BRINGING CRITICAL SALES TAX DOLLARS TO OKLAHOMA."
>> WHEN PEOPLE COME AND THEY SPEND MONEY AND WE HAVE OUR BEST YEAR EVER, THEY LEAVE THOSE DOLLARS IN OUR CITY, OUR REGION, AND IN OUR STATE.
AND THAT MONEY WE CAN USE TO, YOU KNOW, HELP BETTER SCHOOLS, BETTER ROADS, AND THEN CREATE MORE ATTRACTIONS THAT BRING EVEN MORE PEOPLE TO THE STATE.
>> PINNELL SAYS OKLAHOMA SPENDS LESS ON ADVERTISING COMPARED TO STATES LIKE TEXAS AND ARKANSAS.
IN 2021, ARKANSAS SPENT A TOTAL OF $7.5 MILLION IN TOURISM MARKETING.
TODAY.
THERE'S A LOT OF COMPETITION FOR THOSE DOLLARS BETWEEN OKLAHOMA, ARKANSAS, AND KANSAS.
BUT, AGAIN, IT'S US AND KANSAS PROBABLY THE LOWEST ADVERTISING SPEND IN THE REGION.
>> TO HELP INCREASE THE SPENDING BUDGET, LAWMAKERS ARE LOOKING FOR WAYS TO INVEST MORE MONEY INTO TOURISM MARKETING.
THAT INVESTMENT COULD LEAD TO MORE TOURISM DOLLARS IN OUR STATE.
>> SENATOR BILL COLEMAN HAS A SO, WE'RE CAPPED RIGHT NOW ON HOW MUCH MONEY WE CAN SPEND INVITING PEOPLE TO THE STATE OF OKLAHOMA.
FOR EVERY DOLLAR I SPEND ADVERTISING THE STATE, I GET AT LEAST $7 BACK.
SO THE ROI IS VERY GOOD WHEN IT COMES TO ADVERTISING THE STATE AND GETTING PEOPLE TO COME TO THE STATE OF OKLAHOMA AND SPEND MONEY.
>> OKLAHOMA MIGHT SPEND LESS, BUT RECENT DEVELOPMENTS LIKE THE “GREENWOOD RISING ” AND THE TV SHOW “TULSA KING ” HAVE ATTRACTED VISITORS TO THE STATE, LEADING TO ONE OF THE BEST TOURIST SEASONS IN TULSA.
>> WELL, WE JUST HAD OUR BEST YEAR EVER WITH TULSA REGIONAL TOURISM, SO THERE ARE SO MANY NEW OPENINGS.
WE HAD, OBVIOUSLY, THE WOODY GUTHRIE MUSEUM, BUT THE BOB DYLAN MUSEUM JUST OPENED.
WE HAVE THE BEST PARK IN THE UNITED STATES, THE GATHERING PLACE.
ALSO, WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH BLACK WALL STREET AND ALL WE DID WITH “GREENWOOD RISING, ” WHICH IS A PHENOMENAL MUSEUM AND THEN HOSTED THE PGA CHAMPIONSHIP LAST YEAR.
>> PRESIDENT OF TULSA REGIONAL TOURISM, RENEE MCKENNEY, SAYS OKLAHOMA HAS A LITTLE BIT OF EVERYTHING TO OFFER FOR EVERYONE.
>> SO, ALL OF OUR CITIES AND ALL OF OUR TOWNS, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE ELEVATE ALL OF OUR STATE AS A WHOLE.
SO, WHEN YOU COME HERE, YOU GET A LITTLE BIT OF SOMETHING DIFFERENT ALL ACROSS THE STATES.
AND WE'RE CREATING A CIVIL RIGHTS TRAIL.
WE'RE CREATING INDIAN DIFFERENT TRAILS, CONNECTING THE STORIES, BECAUSE WE HAVE THREE SOVEREIGN NATIONS IN TULSA.
SO, WE HAVE CHEROKEE, OSAGE IN MUSKOGEE, AND BETWEEN ALL OF THAT, WE ARE JUST SO DIFFERENT.
I MEAN, THIS IS THE AUTHENTIC AMERICAN STORY.
IT STARTS RIGHT HERE IN OKLAHOMA.
>> YOU MIGHT RECONGNIZE A FEW OF THE LOCATIONS FEATURED IN THE NEW COMMERCIALS, LIKE FIRST AMERICANS MUSEM LOCATED IN CENTRAL OKC AND TURNER FALLS PARK IN DAVIS.
RICH?
>> TAELYR, THANK YOU.
>> WITH OTHER BUSINESS AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEWS, HERE'S JASON DOYLE WITH OUR WEEKLY "OKLAHOMA BUSINESS REVIEW.
” >> TULSA-BASED WILLIAMS REPORTS ITS PROFITS GREW BY 35% IN 2022.
THE COMPANY HAD A NET INCOME A LITTLE MORE THAN $2 BILLION.
WILLIAMS' LEADERSHIP SAYS THEY WERE ABLE TO HAVE THE RECORD PERFORMANCE LAST YEAR DUE TO CONTRACTED TRANSMISSION CAPACITY AND NATURAL GAS GATHERING VOLUMES.
THREE STRATEGIC ACQUISITIONS OF PIPELINE SYSTEMS ALSO INCREASED WILLIAMS' FOOTPRINT.
THE COMPANY PREDICTS IT WILL SPEND IN THE RANGE OF 1.4 TO 1.7 BILLION IN GROWTH CAPITAL EXPENDITURES OVER THIS YEAR.
>>> IN THE EFFORT TO EXIT THE EAGLE FORD FORMATION IN TEXAS, OKLAHOMA-CITY-BASED CHESAPEAKE ENERGY HAS SOLD ANOTHER PORTION OF ITS HOLDINGS FOR $1.4 BILLION.
THIS DEAL FEATURES APPROXIMATELY 172,000 NET ACRES AND APPROXIMATELY 2300 WELLS.
CHEASPEAKE EXPECTS THE DEAL TO CLOSE IN THE SECOND QUARTER OF THIS YEAR.
>> CHEROKEE NATION BUSINESSES IS NOW RUNNING THE GOLD STRIKE CASINO IN TUNICA, MISSISSIPPI AFTER WINNING APPROVAL FROM THE MISSISSIPPI GAMING COMMISSION.
THROUGH ITS INDIRECT SUBSIDAIRY, CNE GAMING HOLDINGS, LLC, THE CHEROKEE NATION BUSINESSES PURCHASED THE OPERATING COMPANY FOR THE CASINO FOR $450 MILLION FROM MANDALAY RESORT GROUP.
THE GOLD STIRKE CASINO RESORT IS LOCATED ABOUT 30 MINTUES FROM DOWNTOWN MEMPHIS ON THE MISSISSIPPI RIVER.
>> WINSTAR WORLD CASINO AND RESORT LANDED LUCAS OIL PRODUCTS AS ITS PARTNER FOR THE NAMING RIGHTS TO ITS SOON TO BE OPENED 6500-SEAT ARENA.
THEY'LL CALL IT "LUCAS OIL LIVE."
THE NEW ARENA WILL DOUBLE THE CAPACITY OF THE CASINO'S PREVIOUS VENUE.
THE COST FOR THE NAMING RIGHTS WAS NOT DISCLOSED.
>> HOME PRICES ARE MODERATING IN OKLAHOMA CITY AFTER SEVERAL MONTHS OF PRICE INCREASES.
REAL ESTATE COMPANY ZILLOW REPORTS HOME PRICES DROPPED BY NINE-TENTHS OF A PERCENT FROM DECEMBER TO JANUARY.
THE AVERAGE HOME ON THE MARKET IS AROUND $213,342.
THAT'S STILL UP BY MORE THAN 8$ OVER LAST YEAR.
OKLAHOMA CITY CONTINUES TO BE ONE OF THE LEAST EXPENSIVE HOME-BUYING MARKETS AMONG MAJOR U.S. CITIES.
JASON DOYLE, THE “OKLAHOMA BUSINESS REVIEW.
” >> THANK YOU, JASON.
>>> A NEW PIECE OF ARTWORK HONORING THE LEGACY OF WOMEN LEADERS IN OKLAHOMA HAS BEEN DEDICATED IN THE STATE CAPITOL.
THE "MAKING HER MARK" MURAL WAS DEDICATED ON WEDNESDAY IN THE HALL OF GOVERNORS.
THE PIECE HONORS DR. SHANNON LUCID; OPALINE DEVERAUX WADKINS; CHEROKEE CHIEF, WILMA MANKILLER, AND OKLAHOMA SENATOR MAXINE HORNER.
THEIR WORK ADVANCING THE SCIENCES, MEDICINE, TRIBAL RELATIONS, AND EDUCATION IN OKLAHOMA AND BEYOND.
THE HALF-MOON SHAPED MURAL WAS CREATED BY ARTIST SARA SCRIBNER.
>> AS ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE CONTINUES TO ADVANCE, WE ARE SEEING ITS INTEGRATION INTO VARIOUS INDUSTRIES, FROM HEALTHCARE TO FINANCE TO TRANSPORTATION.
WITH THIS RAPID DEVELOPMENT, THERE IS A NEED TO DISCUSS THE CHALLENGES, OPPORTUNITIES, AND POTENTIAL IMPACT OF AI TECHNOLOGY ON SOCIETY.
OUR PANEL OF EXPERTS WILL PROVIDE INSIGHTS INTO THE LATEST ADVANCEMENTS, ETHICAL CONSIDERATIONS, AND PRACTICAL IMPLICATIONS OF AI AND EXPLORE ITS ROLE IN SHAPING THE FUTURE OF HUMANITY.
JOIN US AS WE DELVE INTO THIS FASCINATING AND INCREASINGLY IMPORTANT TOPIC.
>> THANK YOU, RICH.
WHAT AN EXCITING TOPIC.
I CANNOT WAIT TO DIVE IN WITH OUR GUESTS TODAY.
THE LEAD-IN THAT YOU JUST READ FOR THIS IN-DEPTH SEGMENT WAS GENERATED BY AN AI, ChatGPT.
WHAT IS ChatGPT?
WELL, THESE GENTLEMEN ARE GOING TO TELL US.
I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE YOU RIGHT NOW.
WE HAVE AN ASSOCIATE PROFESSOR OF COMPUTER SCIENCE AT OKLAHOMA STATE UNIVERSITY AND WE HAVE GREG STARLING WHO RUNS THE INNOVATION LAB AT TAILWIND WHICH IS LOCATED HERE IN OKLAHOMA.
GENTLEMEN, THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US.
>> THANK YOU.
APPRECIATE IT.
>> TELL US HOW YOU ARE INVOLVED WITH AI, ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE TECHNOLOGY.
>> SURE.
I RUN THE ROBOTIC COGNITION LAB HERE AT OKLAHOMA STATE AND WE DO A LOT OF WORK WITH ROBOTS THAT INVOLVES AI STUFF LIKE PLANNING AND COORDINATION AND UNDERSTANDING HUMANS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
WE ALSO DO A LOT OF WORK WITH EXPLAINABLE AI, AI SYSTEMS, MACHINE LEARNING SYSTEMS TEND TO GIVE US ANSWERS THAT MAY BE CORRECT OR NOT, BUT WE DON'T REALLY KNOW HOW THEY GOT THERE.
WE DO A LOT OF WORK ON DEVISING SYSTEMS THAT CAN LEAD SOMEONE THROUGH THE REASONING PROCESS.
SO, EXPLAIN WHY WE'RE MAKING THE -- AI'S MAKING THE DECISIONS THEY'RE MAKING.
>> GREG, HOW ABOUT YOU?
WHAT IS YOUR EXPERIENCE WITH AI?
A LOT, I'M GUESSING.
>> YEAH, I MEAN, I'VE BEEN IN TECHNOLOGY NOW FOR ABOUT 25 YEARS.
IN MY ROLE AS THE HEAD OF INNOVATION LAB AT TAILWIND, ABOUT THREE YEARS AGO, WE STARTED UNDERSTANDING THE LANGUAGE MODEL AND ACQUIRED A COMPANY THAT HELPED US MOVE THERE A YEAR AND A HALF AGO.
FOR THE LAST YEAR, WE LIVED IN THIS ChatGPT KIND OF WORLD.
>> OF COURSE, WE WILL COME BACK TO YOU.
EXPLAIN WHAT THAT WORK THAT YOU GUYS JUST SPOKE ABOUT MEANS TO SOMEONE LIKE ME, THE LAYPERSON.
>> SYSTEMS THAT CAN HELP US TO GENERATE WORK IS BASICALLY THE IDEA THAT THE CREATORS OF SYSTEMS LIKE ChatGPT ENVISION AT THE MOMENT.
IT'S NOT GOOD FOR A LOT OF THINGS, AND IT HAS A LOT OF PROBLEMS, AND I'M SURE WE'LL GET INTO THAT.
ONE THING A SYSTEM LIKE ChatGPT CAN DO IS GENERATE COHERENT PROSE.
IT IS GOOD FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE A HARD TIME JUST PUTTING WORDS ON A PAGE, IT WILL PUT ALL THE WORDS ON A PAGE.
IT MAY BE WRONG, IT MAY BE FALLACIOUS, IT MAY BE BORING, BUT, BOY, IS IT WORDS ON A PAGE.
SO, YOU CAN TAKE THAT AND TURN IT INTO, YOU KNOW, A REASONABLE, INTERESTING BIT OF WRITING, TAKES SOME EFFORT.
BUT, YOU KNOW, THE BOTTLENECK IS JUST GETTING STUFF WRITTEN, THEN A SYSTEM LIKE THIS CAN REALLY HELP WITH THAT.
>> GREG, LET'S TALK ABOUT THE WRITING ISSUE.
WE HAVE GOOGLE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS OR ASK SIRI.
IS SIRI A FORM OF AI?
OR IS THAT JUST A COMPUTER SPEAKING ANSWERS TO YOU?
WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AI AND THESE OTHER PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE BEEN USING?
>> I WOULD SAY SIRI IS ALEXA, ANY DIGIT ASSISTANT LIKE THAT IS A FORM OF AI.
WHAT IS DIFFERENT WITH SOME OF THESE LARGE LANGUAGE MODELS LIKE ChatGPT IS THEIR ABILITY TO GENERATE CONTENT FOR YOU IN A DIFFERENT WAY.
IT CAN GO BEYOND ANSWERS QUESTIONS TO BRAINSTORMING IDEAS.
WE ARE ROMANTICIZING A BLANK PAGE.
THESE SYSTEMS CAN GET YOU OFF THAT BLANK PAGE AND GET YOU WELL ON YOUR WAY TO ACTUALLY CREATING CONTENT.
>> SO, IT CAN PROVOKE THOUGHT YOU.
YOU'RE NOT PROVOKING THOUGHT IN THE MACHINE.
YOU ARE PROVOKING THOUGHT IN YOU?
>> THAT'S A REALLY GOOD WAY TO PUT IT.
IT'S REALLY, REALLY GREAT AT BEING ABLE TO BRAINSTORM A LOT OF IDEAS REALLY RAPIDLY.
>> SO, UM, I'M GOING TO COME BACK TO YOU, CHRIS, BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS I DID READ IN DOING RESEARCH ON THIS IS FOLKS CAN USE IT ON ESSAYS.
I SAW THAT THE ERA OF THE ESSAY IS OVER.
STUDENTS CAN HAVE COMPUTERSRI THEIR ESSAYS FOR THEM.
NOW WHAT DO YOU DO, PROFESSOR?
>> WELL, IT CANNOT WRITE GOOD ESSAYS.
IT CAN'T, OBVIOUSLY -- OBVIOUSLY, CHEATING IS A PROBLEM.
PEOPLE CHEAT AND, THEREFORE, DON'T GET THE BENEFIT OF THE POINT OF WRITING ESSAYS IN A COLLEGE CLASS, WHICH IS TO LEARN HOW TO GENERATE A COGENT ARGUMENT AND STRING WORDS TOGETHER IN A WAY THAT ALLOWS YOU TO THINK DEEPLY ABOUT A TOPIC.
BUT THE ESSAYS THAT ARE GENERATED BY ChatGPT ARE, FIRST OF ALL, HAVE NO NECESSARY RELATION TO FACTS.
YOU KNOW, ChatGPT, OR SYSTEMS LIKE THAT, FIND IT -- THEY'RE TRYING TO PRODUCE COHERENT LANGUAGE.
BUT COHERENT DOESN'T MEAN TRUE.
THEY ARE BUILT OUT OF, BASICALLY, LOOKING AT LARGE AMOUNTS OF TEXT COLLECTED FROM THE INTERNET, AND THEY ARE TRYING TO WRITE PREDICTABLE TEXT.
AND THEY'RE DOING IT BY BASICALLY LOOKING AT, OKAY, THIS WORD, HOW OFTEN DOES IT SHOW UP IN THE CONTEXT OF THIS WORD?
IF THAT'S OFTEN, I WILL PUT THEM TOGETHER, TOO.
IT HAS A LOT OF WORDS AT ITS DISPOSAL, BUT IT DOESN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT MAKING AN ARGUMENT OR INTRODUCING TRUTHS.
SOMETIMES IT GETS THAT BY ACCIDENT BECAUSE TRUE THINGS HAPPEN TO CO-OCCUR IN STRINGING TOGETHER TEXT.
>> IS THERE A WAY TO TELL THE DIFFERENCE?
>> OH, YEAH.
>> OH.
>> I MEAN, IT IS VERY EASY WHEN YOU START INTERACTING WITH A LARGE LANGUAGE MODEL LIKE THIS TO REALIZE, OH, IT IS TELLING ME THINGS THAT SORT OF SOUND LIKE THEY HANG TOGETHER, BUT THEY'RE JUST NOT TRUE.
IT WILL -- IT WILL MAKE UP CITATIONS TO PAPERS, IT WILL MAKE UP FACTS THAT AREN'T ACTUALLY -- THAT AN EXPERT -- YOU KNOW, A NONEXPERT CAN BE FOOLED BECAUSE THEY TEND TO SOUND COHERENT, BUT IT DOESN'T BEAR ANY RELATION TO RELATE.
>> THERE WAS A SCARY MOMENT WITH AI WITH A REPORTER.
CAN YOU TELL US ABOUT THAT.
>> BASICALLY, A REPORTER WAS USING BING'S AI -- I ACTUALLY TALKED TO THE PEOPLE WHO RUN THAT LAB AT MICROSOFT MULTIPLE TIMES A WEEK, AND THEY WERE A LITTLE EMBARRASSED BY IT, CANDIDLILY.
BUT, BASICALLY, A REPORTER WAS ABLE TO PUSH THE AI IN A WAY TO -- TO ACTUALLY ACT LIKE THE AI WAS FALLING IN LOVE WITH THE REPORTER, HAD SOME THOUGHTS.
WHAT I WOULD SAY TO THAT IS WE ARE STILL VERY EARLY DAYS, I AND I CAN GO TAKE A HAMMER AND SMASH A VASE OR BUILD A HOUSE.
ABSOLUTELY, IF YOU WANT TO GET YOUR ARTICLE PUBLISHED AND GET PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT IT, LIKE US TALKING ABOUT IT, PUSHING THESE AIs TO WEIRD PLACES WILL GET YOU PUBLISHED.
YOU'RE USING AI IN THE WRONG WAY.
>> DO YOU THINK THE REPORTER DID IT?
>> I DO.
THEY PUSHED IT TO CREATE THE RESULT.
THAT'S FINE AND FAIR.
WHAT THE TEAMS WILL DO IS FIGURE OUT HOW TO SHUT THOSE DOWN AND CLOSE THOSE LOOPHOLES.
RIGHT NOW, THERE'S A LOT OF THOSE LOOPHOLES.
THERE'S A LOT OF WAYS TO PUSH IT WEIRDLY.
WE'LL FIGURE OUT THOUSAND FIX THAT.
YOU COULD USE A SAW TO CUT A BOARD IN HALF OR USE A SAW TO CUT YOUR COUCH IN HALF.
AI IS A TOOL JUST LIKE ANYTHING ELSE.
>> ANOTHER POINT I DID WANT TO TOUCH ON WITH YOU ESPECIALLY IS CAN AI TECHNOLOGY BE USED IN A POLITICAL ARENA?
>> OF COURSE, IT CAN BE.
>> NEGATIVELY OR POSITIVELY?
>> NEGATIVELY OR POSITIVELY.
I WOULD PROBABLY DISAGREE TO AN EXTENT WITH Dr. CRAIG.
I THINK -- I THINK THE QUALITY OF THE OUTPUT IS OFTENTIMES THE QUALITY OF THE INPUT.
IF YOU DON'T GET GOOD RESULTS, YOU'RE PROMPTING THE LANGUAGE POORLY.
WE GENERATE ARTICLES AND BLOG POSTS FOR THE PEOPLE THAT USE OUR SYSTEM THAT PASS EVERY AI CHECK YOU CAN POSSIBLY RUN AND PASS IT AS HUMAN WRITTEN.
THEY'LL MAKE JUNK UP, BUT YOU CAN GET AROUND THAT BY PROMPTING IT TO USE SPECIFIC AUTHORS, SPECIFIC BOOKS, THINGS LIKE THAT.
AS BOOK X, Y, Z EXPLAINS, CAN YOU GIVE ME MORE INFORMATION ABOUT A CERTAIN THING?
I DON'T THINK IT WOULD DO REALLY GOOD AT COLLEGE LEVEL, HONESTLY, BUT HIGH-SCHOOL LEVEL ESSAYS, WE CAN GENERATE ESSAYS NOBODY WOULD KNOW AND PASS EVERY AI CHECK.
FROM A POLITICAL POINT OF VIEW, YEAH, I THINK THAT'S A REALLY CONCERN.
THE ABILITY TO CREATE CONTENT EN MASSE, THAT COULD INFLUENCE LARGE PORTIONS OF SOCIETY IS A REAL PROBLEM.
WE'VE SEEN IT ALREADY AT A LEVEL TO INFLUENCE ELECTIONS IN THE PAST, AND ALL THIS HAS DONE IS MAKE THAT A LOT, LOT EASIER, A LOT MORE ACCESSIBLE.
>> YOU HEAR A LOT ABOUT BOTS ON TWITTER.
I STILL DON'T FULLY KNOW WHAT A BOT IS.
MAYBE IT'S BECAUSE I'M THE OLDER GENERATION.
IS THAT A PROGRAM?
AN ALGORITHM.
IS THAT THE SAME THING OR DIFFERENT?
>> I MEAN, BOTS CAN DO A LOT OF THINGS.
BOTS IS KIND OF A GENERIC TERM THAT PEOPLE USE FOR MANY DIFFERENT THINGS.
OFTENTIMES WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT BOTS INFLUENCING ELECTION, THEY'RE FAKE PEOPLE, FOR LACK OF A BETTER WAY TO PUT IT, THAT ARE ABLE TO MOST ON SOCIAL MEDIA, BUT THEY'RE POSTING FROM LARGE REPOSITORYS OF DATA.
THEY'RE ROBOTING TRYING TO PASS OFF AS HUMAN.
>> ISN'T THAT AN AI?
>> THERE'S SOME LEVEL OF AI, CERTAINLY.
AND THERE'S SOME LEVEL OF HUMAN REACTION.
WHAT IS KIND OF SCARY ABOUT IT IS YOU CAN HAVE BOTS HAVING CONVERSATION WITH EACH OTHER, WHICH OFTENTIMES IS AI, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A LOT GOING ON IN A PARTICULAR AREA OR ABOUT A PARTICULAR SUBJECT BUT OFTENTIMES THAT CAN BE A PLAYER TRYING TO INFLUENCE A CERTAIN AREA, TRYING TO SAY THERE'S MORE DISSENSION OR CONVERSATION TAN THERE ACTUALLY IS.
>> CHRIS, ANOTHER POINT, UM, THERE CAN BE BIAS IN AIs OR BOTS OR -- IT'S A LITTLE -- IT'S A LITTLE DIFFICULT FOR ME TO WRAP MY MIND AROUND IT.
I THINK I HAVE TO ACCEPT THE TERMS AND LEARN AS I GO ALONG, I GUESS.
I DON'T KNOW.
>> YEAH, SO, THESE LARGE LANGUAGE MODELS ARE TRAINED ON LARGE SWATHS OF TEXT FROM THE INTERNET, BASICALLY.
I THINK OPEN AI, MAKING ChatGPT HAS A CORPUS THAT'S 4 OR 5 TERABYTES OF DATA.
AND THAT IS WIKIPEDIA ARTICLES AND REDDIT POSTS AND, YOU KNOW, JUST EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENS ON THE INTERNET.
AND A LOT OF THAT IS NOT NECESSARILY REPRESENTATIVE OF HUMANITY'S BEST SELF.
SO, IT'S VERY EASY TO RELEASE THESE LARGE LANGUAGE MODELS IN THE WORLD AND QUICKLY DISCOVER THAT THEY CAN EASILY BE GUIDED TOWARDS SPOUTING REALLY, REALLY HANDFUL LANGUAGE AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
ChatGPT APPEARS -- THE ENGINEERS BEHIND IT HAVE APPEARED TO TRY TO PUT A LOT OF GUARDRAILS AGAINST THAT, BUT THOSE ARE EASILY CIRCUMVENTED.
IT'S ALSO THE CASE THAT WHEN WE'RE USING MACHINE LEARNING TO TRY TO PREDICT BEHAVIOR, THE DATA THAT IT FINDS RELATIONSHIPS IN MAY BE DATA THAT COMES FROM, YOU KNOW, SYSTEMIC BIAS IN -- IN DATA, IN HISTORY.
YOU KNOW, IT CAN EASILY LEARN, FOR EXAMPLE, TO BE RACIST BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF HISTORY OF UNEQUAL OUTCOMES BASED ON, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THE COUNTRY'S HISTORY.
>> SOUNDS LIKE RAISING A CHILD.
>> IT CAN VERY EASILY DETECT NOT NECESSARILY WRONG OR SPURIOUS RELATIONSHIPS, BUT RELATIONSHIPS THAT ARE OUT OF CONTEXT AND CAN LEAD IT TO JUST BEING DISCRIMINATORY AND THINGS LIKE THAT AS WELL.
>> CAN THERE BE SCARY ASPECTS TO THAT, GREG?
OR CHRIS, IF YOU WANT TO STAY ON THAT TOPIC, CAN THERE BE SCARY ASPECTS.
WE HAVE ALL THESE AI PROGRAMS STREAMING ON STREAMING CHANNELS.
I'M FASCINATED THE SCIENCE FICTION IN THE STORY REALM, DOES THAT BEAR REALITY?
>> THERE'S SOME.
I THINK JUST TO PIGGYBACK ON WHAT HE WAS TALKING ABOUT.
ONE THING HE MENTIONED WAS THESE ENGINEERS ARE PUTTING GUARDRAILS.
THOSE GUARDRAILS CAN ALSO INTRODUCE A YET OF BIASES DEPENDING WHAT THEY FEEL IS APPROPRIATE OR NOT APPROPRIATE.
OPEN AI, THE COMPANY BEHIND ChatGPT AND SOME OTHER LANGUAGE MODELS, HAS SAID THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE BOARDS THAT ARE TRY TO WORK THAT BIAS OUT.
WE'RE HERE IN OKLAHOMA.
TRY TALKING TO ChatGPT ABOUT FOSSIL FUELS AND YOU'LL GET A VERY NON-OKLAHOMA KIND OF SPIN ON FOSSIL FUELS BECAUSE OF HOW ChatGPT AND THEIR ENGINEERS HAVE KIND OF PUT SOME OF THOSE GUARDRAILS AROUND.
ANOTHER REAL BIG BIAS, AND I KNOW THIS SOUNDS DISINGENUOUS COMING FROM AN OLDER WHITE MALE, GIVE ME A PICTURE OF A CEO, IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE ME OR Dr. CRAIG.
IT WILL BE AN OLDER WHITE MALE BECAUSE THAT'S THE DATA THAT IT WAS TRAINED ON.
THE PROBLEM IS SOME ETHNICITIES HAVE BEEN OVERSEXUALIZED.
WHENEVER YOU PUT IN SOME OF THOSE TERMS, YOU TEND TO GET PEOPLE THAT LOOK A CERTAIN WAY.
AND SO, THERE ARE ABSOLUTELY BIASES THROUGHOUT.
AS FAR AS MOVING INTO, LIKE, SKYNET OR SOME SCARY THINGS LIKE THAT, I THINK WE'RE PROBABLY A WAYS AWAY FROM THAT FOR SURE.
BUT IT DOES START TO GET -- GET SCARIER AND SCARIER ESPECIALLY IF WE MOVE INTO A SPOT WHERE WE'RE ALLOWING AI TO START TO MAKE DECISIONS FOR US, WHICH HAPPENS ALREADY, BUT IF IT GETS MUCH WIDER, THERE ARE CONCERNS.
>> THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO GO TO.
WE'RE GETTING SO LAZY.
I'M INCLUDING MYSELF IN THE WE'RE.
WE'RE GETTING SO LAZY.
NOW DO WE WANT COMPUTERS TO DO OUR THINKING FOR US?
CHRIS, YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT, KIDS, OH, MAYBE I DON'T HAVE TO WRITE THAT ESSAY.
THEY'RE GIVING UP THE LESSON OF LEARNING FROM THAT PROCESS.
THAT'S SCARY.
>> IT CAN BE.
BUT, ON THE OTHER HAND, THE KINDS OF THINGS THAT THESE LANGUAGE MODELS CAN PRODUCE HOPEFULLY WILL FREE UP PEOPLE TO SPEND MORE OF THEIR TIME DOING LESS ROTE TEXT GENERATION.
IT'S ABSOLUTELY TRUE THAT WE ARE NOT AS GOOD IN MENTAL MATH THAN BEFORE.
IS THAT A LOSS TO HUMANITY?
DOESN'T FEEL LIKE IT.
YES, AS THESE MODELS GET BETTER, WE'LL PROBABLY LOSE SOME OF THE ROTE SKILLS.
>> WE USED TO HAVE TO MEMORIZE PHONE NUMBERS.
YEAH, THAT'S A LITTLE SCARY.
WELL, I'M GOING TO ASK OUR PRODUCE NOT TO LOSE YOUR NUMBERS, TO KEEP THEM ON TAP.
I WANT YOU BACK.
THERE'S SO MUCH MORE TO TALK ABOUT.
I HAD NO IDEA IT EXISTED.
I FIND IT FASCINATING.
WE'RE GOING TO TALK MORE IN THE FUTURE HOPEFULLY ABOUT REGULATION AND THE LATEST DEVELOPMENTS.
THANK YOU BOTH FOR YOUR TIME AND SHARING YOUR INFORMATION AND YOUR INSIGHTS WITH ALL OF OKLAHOMA.
>> I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE IT.
>> THANK YOU.
>> REALLY INTERESTING SUV.
-- STUFF.
>> SKI SEASON IS IN FULL SWING IN THE ROCKIES AND IN THIS WEEK'S "NATIONAL VIEW," WE HEAD FOR THE MOUNTAINS TO LEARN MORE ABOUT THIS YEAR'S NATIONAL BROTHERHOOD OF SKIERS SUMMIT IN VAIL, COLORADO, COURTESY OF OUR PARTNERS AT ROCKY MOUNTAIN PBS.
>> WE KNEW NOTHING AT ALL ABOUT WHERE THIS WAS GOING.
50 YEARS AGO, 13 BLACK SKI CLUBS CAME TOGETHER IN ASPEN, COLORADO.
50 YEARS LATER, WE HAVE OVER 2,000 PEOPLE.
WHAT DRAWS PEOPLE TO ACTIVITIES THAT THEY ARE NOT USED.
MOST OF US END UP SAYING, GEE, I DON'T DO THIS OR I DON'T DO THAT.
LIKE, BLACK FOLKS DON'T SWIM.
BLACK FOLKS DON'T GO TO THE MOUNTAINS.
BLACK FOLKS DON'T GO PLAY IN THE SNOW.
IT'S ONLY WHEN WE ARE ABLE TO SEE PEOPLE THAT LOOK LIKE US DOING THESE SPORTS THAT WE GET SOMEWHERE IN THE BACK OF OUR MIND, MAYBE I'D LIKE TO TRY THAT.
♪ ♪ >> IT'S SO EXCITING TO SEE FEMALES, MALES, EVERYONE.
I WENT TO MY FIRST SKI SUMMIT, AND I WAS EYE-OPENING.
YOU KNOW, IT WAS ONE OF THE BEST THINGS THAT EVER HAPPENED TO ME BECAUSE I NEVER SAW ANY ONE OF MY COLOR.
I'M BORN AND RAISED IN COLORADO.
I STARTED SKIING WITH THE SLIPPERS AND SLIDERS WHEN I WAS ABOUT 7.
IT WAS PROHIBITED FOR A LONG TIME BECAUSE OF THE COST.
IT'S VERY EXPENSIVE.
IT'S VERY EXPENSIVE.
AND THE ONLY WAY WE CAN AFFORD IT IS TO GET TOGETHER.
SO, NOW WE'RE UNITING, WE'RE GETTING DISCOUNTS AND WE'RE MAKING IT FEASIBLE AND IT'S SO EXCITING TO SEE THE YOUNGER KIDS OUT THERE SKIING.
>> WE HAVE OVER 2,000 PEOPLE IN VAIL ENJOYING A WONDERFUL EXPERIENCE.
WHAT MADE US GREAT IS WE WERE FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO STUMBLE ON A MODEL THAT APPEALS TO PEOPLE.
NOT ONLY IS IT GREAT SKIING AND SNOWBOARDING, BUT IT'S ALSO A PARTY.
♪ IT'S A TREMENDOUSLY POWERFUL REPRESENTATION OF WHAT THIS ORGANIZATION IS.
WE'RE THE LARGEST SKI CONVENTION IN AMERICA.
WOW, WE JUST HAPPEN TO BE BLACK.
WHAT DOES IT FEEL LIKE?
IT FEELS LIKE -- IT FEELS TO ME OVERWHELMING.
>> THEY ARE THE ONES THAT STARTED THE WHOLE THING.
SO, IT'S REALLY GREAT THAT THEY ARE HERE, THEY'RE STILL ACTIVE, THEY'RE STILL INVOLVED.
SO OUR KIDS, WE GOT TO HELP THEM OUT.
WE GOT TO BE THERE FOR THEM.
>> THAT'S WHY IT'S IMPORTANT THAT ORGANIZATIONS LIKE THIS EXIST.
BECAUSE AS YOU SAW THAT YOUNG MAN THAT CAME UP AND SPOKE WITH ME, HE AND HIS PARENTS, THAT WAS A WONDERFULLY EXPERIENCE.
HOPEFULLY, WE'LL GET HIM MOTIVATED TO CONTINUE TO SKI.
THANKS GOODNESS THERE ARE YOUNG FOLKS WHO ARE WILLING TO COME AROUND AND PARTICIPATE, WHETHER THEY'RE WILLING TO STEP UP AND LEAD AND TAKE, YOU KNOW, ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITY IS TO BE DETERMINED.
BUT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DEPENDING ON.
>> ON THE NEXT EDITION OF THE “OKLAHOMA NEWS REPORT," OUR YEARLONG SERIES ON OKLAHOMA'S HISTORIC BLACK FRONTIER TOWNS CONTINUES IN LANGSTON, OKLAHOMA, ESTABLISHED IN 1890 AND STILL HOME OF THE LANGSTON UNIVERSITY LIONS!
TAELYR JACKSON EXPLORES THE TOWN'S PAST, PRESENT, AND FUTURE.
>> WE'LL SAY SO LONG FOR NOW WITH A LOOK AT THE OKLAHOMA CITY LOW RIDER COMMUNITY, PHOTOGRAPHED BY JONATHAN THOMPSON AND EDITED BY LUIS RENDON.
IF YOU ENJOY OUR NEWSCAST, PLEASE INVITE YOUR FRIENDS TO WATCH.
FOR ALL OF US HERE ON THE "OKLAHOMA NEWS REPORT," I'M RICH LENZ.
HAVE A GREAT WEEKEND!
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